Mudlet tutorials/helpfiles

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Mudlet tutorials/helpfiles

Post by Caled » Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:35 pm

I find the lua wiki page frustratingly unhelpful. It is probably more useful to people that have some formal training and understand the majority of the terminology. This is in complete contrast to regular expressions (regular-expressions.info) which has a lot of information explained really well. This post is just meant as constructive criticism, from someone that learned (and is still learning) lua over the past few months.

There are relatively few tutorials around for lua, and most of them either not relevant to mudding, or just not good ones. The mudlet manual has some good parts to it, and some not so good parts (which is understandable because it is a work in progress, and incomplete.)

Luckily, lua IS pretty easy and logical, and for each concept there is a resource. For example, I found the section on variables in the manual to be good, when I first began. I had trouble with the structure of if statements though, relying on the odd example I found in the manual and on the forum, but it wasn't until Ramiel sent me his scripts that I really got the hang of them.

A tutorial on lists would have been really handy. The Nick Gammon thread on tables (linked from the mudlet manual) was really helpful but it refers to a function he includes with mushclient, but which is not with standard lua or mudlet. There were some definite gaps in what I was able to work out for myself and I had to ask a few questions here (and in a thread about mudlet/lua on the Aetolia forum) before I was really comfortable with them. Now that I am, I wish I had learned about them sooner because there are a lot of my early scripts where I wish I had used tables instead. I was comfortable with the concept of a data record when I began with mudlet, but because my experience was with zMud, I was not used to using them in any time-sensitive scripting

From all of this, here is what I think would be needed in a basic mudlet tutorial. Bear in mind that my own opinion of what is basic vs intermediate vs advanced, is probably different to what a programmer may think. :
  • variables, much as it is already (it explains them quite well for the newbie) with one addition: an explanation that the values of the variables will not be saved between sessions so data intended to be kept will need to be in a table with table.save/load used.
  • tables (basic) - an explanation of how to create a table, add/remove from it, access it and use table.save/load.
  • tables (intermediate) - en explanation about looping through a table, with both pairs() and ipairs() explained.
  • tables (advanced) (not really necessary, perhaps)- talk about storing different data types (specifically functions), meta tables and whatever else might fit into "advanced".
  • Triggers (basic): how to create a trigger, how to pick which pattern type, and links to a couple of pages from http://www.regular-expressions.info/ (that site really is good - why reinvent the wheel?)
  • Triggers (intermediate): That post Heiko made recently explaining chains/filters, plus a few examples and perhaps some of what is in the manual already
I'm sure more would be helpful - such as for labels/buttons etc, but I think that once a person works through and understands the stuff above, then they would be quite capable of looking at a sample script with labels or mini-consoles and figuring it out themselves. Especially if the API list is reorganised and each command given an example making it a little clearer.

I have sort of planned to make contributions to the manual myself, once I feel like I am competent enough anyway. I am working on another project at the moment, though, so anything I do for help files is definitely not going to be soon.

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Re: Mudlet tutorials/helpfiles

Post by Heiko » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:30 am

It would be very helpful if you contributed to the manual.

The filter/chain text I posted the other day has been explicitely written for the manual. I'll start updating and actually finishing the manual soon.
It would also be very helpful if somebody could make simple demonstration & help videos e.g. how to make a trigger, alias etc. as these may help clarify elementary stuff and terminology and thus help understanding the manual better.

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Re: Mudlet tutorials/helpfiles

Post by Vadi » Tue Feb 28, 2017 6:06 pm

While we've populated the wiki for a lot of this since it was posted, I've had the idea of bringing all of these examples into the client and pre-installing them by default for newbies: https://github.com/Mudlet/newbie-tuts. If anyone has ideas, feel free to throw them in.

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